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Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Comment on a Comment - Georgia Runoff

I got a comment today from someone going by the moniker "An American Idiot," sort of related to last week's post about the Georgia Senate Runoff election, and I felt like it was worth posting up front so I could respond:

Elliot you are a guy with too much time on your hands! One good reason to vote Republican in this runoff is to insure there IS the ability for the minority to have a voice. As we have seen Nancy Pelosi is not the most open minded person who has ever led the House. When one party controls everything you get group think. This is bad. Think about that when you are standing there ready to drop your vote. I have more on this topic on my blog @ http://anamericanidiot.wordpress.com/


Hi, An American Idiot - thanks for taking the time to comment. First, in response to your comment about "having too much time" on my hands, I can only assume you're referring to my "Mustaches I Have Admired" post. What can I say, I'm between gigs.

I also wanted to respond to your plea for me to vote Republican in next week's Senate runoff here in Georgia - not going to happen, and here's why:
  1. I think Saxby Chambliss is a corrupt dinosaur who still believes in trickle-down economics, and I would have an exceedingly difficult time voting for a guy who engaged in really despicable campaigning the first time he ran for the Senate, smearing Max Cleland, a genuine war hero, as not being brave enough to take on Al Qaeda. Once upon a time, John McCain thought that was pretty disgraceful, too, but apparently not so disgraceful that he didn't mind putting in a couple of appearances here in Georgia on Chambliss' behalf over the last couple of weeks.
  2. It's not my responsibility as a voter to make sure the minority party has a voice, it's my responsibility to vote my conscience; if enough people feel differently than I do, Chambliss wins, and the GOP has that extra hedge in the Senate. That's the way a democracy is supposed to work. This year, Republicans lost seats in the House and the Senate because people thought they have been doing a lousy job - and I agree with that, so why would I want to help them out, especially someone like Chambliss, who I believe is part of the problem?
  3. I voted for Barack Obama, I believe in his agenda, and I'm not going to do anything to put an obstacle in his path.
One other thing - you mentioned Nancy Pelosi, and that she's not the "most open-minded person who has ever led the house." It's true, she's been as partisan as her Republican predecessor - but that has no bearing on this particular race. Here's something to consider - the new leader of her party, the President-elect, has made it pretty clear that this is not the time for partisan nonsense. He's setting a tone, and to further his policy agenda - one that Pelosi presumably agrees with - the Speaker of the House is going to have to adopt his tone, because he's going to need support from the other side of the aisle, as broad support is what's going to enable our recovery to get going.

One last thing to consider, as well - assuming that the Democrats do not get to sixty seats in the Senate, there are still going to be issues where the filibuster is busted, because there will be issues where two or three moderate Republicans will be willing to side with the Democrats to get business done.

That's how I see it, anyway.

Thanks for reading,
EB

4 comments:

Teferri said...

Great post.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I was taking a friendly, good-humor jab at the "Mustaches" blog.

If you take a few moment to read my blog, (http://anamericanidiot.wordpress.com/) you'll realize I am not a hard right zealot. I'm also not a Democrat. I do think too many people in this country are idiots who just vote for the strongest, best looking, most gifts, ect. Understand by that I'm not calling you an idiot. You seem a decent fellow, maybe a bit duped by idealism, whereas I am a bit too cynical.

I found your sneering comment about "trickle-down" interesting. First, you mentioned being between jobs. I'm sorry many people are now and we have both parties to blame but that's another argument. As I look around, I wonder who you are applying for work with? Hmm, I bet you have yet to approach a panhandler for a job yet. In fact I'd bet every person you have contacted or sent a resume to has been wealthy than you. This is the essence of the "trickle-down" theory. You encourage business to create jobs. Granted Republicans have often forgotten that simply reducing government drag doesn't necessarily create jobs, they have to incentivize that the extra money go toward job creation.

I'm assuming you bought into the notion of "bottom-up" economic growth. This defies logic and truthfully, I don't believe even Obama believes in it. If he did he would not delay his tax increases. I want to understand how seizing money from the wealthy and distributing it to the underclasses brought wealth and prosperity to the former USSR? It didn't. It brought hunger and bread lines. The wealthy are given disincentives to job creation and those who can move abroad, those who cannot join the rest in stretching out their hands to the government.

I have hope that Obama will govern from the center and listen to sound advice (if there is any to be found.) So far I am not negative on Obama and have hope he will not govern on campaign slogans. Frankly, Obama doesn't have a long enough track-record to judge. (Maybe that's a good thing.) I am negative on Pelosi and Reid who've demonstrated partisanship over patriotism in this voter's eyes.

Elliot Blake said...

To "An American Idiot":

I checked out your blog, and I don't think you're a hard right zealot, and I also don't think any less of you because you're not a Democrat or because you're a cynic. God knows there's enough wrong in this country to be cynical about, and depending on the subject, you might find a partner in cynicism here. That said, I don't feel like I've been duped by idealism. On the contrary, after spending much of the last eight years very unhappy with the direction our country has taken and mired in my own cynicism, it's refreshing to believe that things have a chance to change for the better.

Regarding "trickle down", I understand what it is, and I don't think it works on its own. The wealth gap in this country has only gotten wider in the past eight years, and in my view the rich have shown more interest in padding their own pockets than in job creation. (That's my cynical side coming out.)

I do believe there needs to be some bottom up relief in this country, to free up some money for folks to spend on the things made by the people who own the businesses, so those people can stop laying off those same folks who buy their products.

Politically and economically, it makes sense for Obama to hold off on the tax increases, so they can just expire in two and three years, as scheduled. But I believe your argument about socialism is overblown. We have a progressive tax system in this country, and I believe it's fair to ask those that can afford to pay a little more in taxes to do so - that's not "seizing" money, and we don't live in the USSR, or in a political climate or system anwhere close to that. I don't think asking those in the top tax bracket to pay 4% more is going to disincentivize anyone to start a business if they feel like they have an opportunity to be successful. Ronald Reagan recognized this and raised taxes during his tenure as President, and I don't recall anyone screaming "socialist" or "communist" at him.

I think Obama is a pragmatist above all else - he recognizes that we're in a dire economic straits here, and that fixing the problem trumps ideology. You've got good reason to be distrustful of Pelosi and Reid, but as I said in the main post, I think people are tired of partisanship on both sides of the aisle, and if they want to hold on to their posts, they're going to need to adopt Obama's tone. We need everyone on board to tackle the enormous problems we face, and the best solutions are going to come from spirited debate and a melding of ideas, not a rigid adherence to one philosophy over the other. So we'll see what happens. I'm hoping for the best, because we can't afford anything less.

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